New Meeting RE: The MFF Micronational World Cup

[King James I]

I have started this meeting to review our progress and to primarily discuss the possibility of organisig the plemininary steps in setting up the first ever Micronational World Cup, independantly, without the help of NF. I believe it may be much more efficient for us to begin discussing this ourselves, and of course there is nothing preventing us from becoming involved with NF in the future. I think it would benefit us greatly if we could independantly as the MFF begin to organise this world cup. I would like to suggest the following, please feel free to contribute in what ways you can to what is said;

- Aim to set a plemininary target date for the first MFF World Cup, preferably around July/August of next year?
- Begin discussing realistic venues
- The trophy - What should it be called? and what should it look like? Also should the winning team get to keep it for so long? or recieve a complementary replica? Should the winning team recieve medals?
-To pay for the costs of the venue and trophies, do you believe it neccesary to charge each of the nations entering a small fee?
-Fundraising ideas - I'd like to make it so that we have an annual event whereby we attempt to raise money to put towards the costs of the tournament and possibly future tournaments
- Regulations - What should be required before a team may enter?

Please feel free to contribute to any of the above, we need all inputs and ideas.

[kris]

- Yeah I think playing it around July august is a good idea. playing in the close season will help in finding a venue.

- For Venues suppose it depends on teams size and crowd size.

- I think the trophy should have a traditional name but I have no ideas about that. I called also have a commercial name to make some revenue that way. I think the winning team should keep the Trophy until the next tournament saves money on making a replica for them. I like the idea of medals but that is another money issue really.

- Charging Money for competing nations I think it something that needs to be discussed at a later date.

- It just an idea but it may be hard to achieve, but maybe get an MFF allstar team to play some ex pro's

- Regulations - I don't quite understand this you might have to explain this.

[King James I]

For regulations, I basically meant the rules, maybe such as nations should have been memebrs of the MFF for at least ____ ammount of time before being able to compete in the MFF World Cup, etc. Obviously that's just an example.

[Lewis]

I think we need to think about where the majority of the micronations in the group are first before actually considering where to hold it.

[King James I]

Very true, by the way I've replied to your post on MNN about a new sport with an addition to the original idea. It may affect this, you'll see what I mean when you read it

[kris]

I think each nation should have played one game agaisnt another micronation before being able to competein the WC

[Lewis]

Wouldn't that make it hard to play a nation in the first place?

I mean, in order for a nation to compete against another nation, it would take a lot of organising like the WC.

I think that Micronations should be allowed to compete after filling out a lot of forms and proving that they have the means to play. That way we can seperate ones willing to do work from ones not.

[kris]

Yeah Like when a new onwer takes over a club.

[King James I]

That's a good point, we also need a critera for being able to enter the MFF WC - Such as;

-A Kit
-Set of bibs in case of the need to change the kit OR an Alternative Kit
-National Anthem On CD

etc..

That way we can distinguish the nations who are serious about competiting further from those who are aiming to turn up for a mess around

However, we need to make sure it isn't overly hard to enter. After all we want to provide as many nations as possible the chance to compete in the MWC

[geoffblade]

Hello,

Thanks for accepting my application, I have a couple of thoughts.

Its definately a good idea to set a date in the future to give people as much notice as is possible.

Charging a small fee for entry is a good idea for covering the costs of the venue and referees, medals etc.

Where do most of the members in the federation currently hail from? This has obviously got to be key when deciding a venue!

Also are we hoping for an 11-a-side tournament? We are more likely to be successfull in recruiting teams with 5 a side i would suggest

And yeh.. making it to hard to enter will definately put people off, im not sure there is the means for all teams to play against another member before entering- maybe they should have to njoin the mff for a period of time before they can enter?

[King James I]

Thanks for those points! And Welcome to The MFF for the first time!

I agree about the 5-aside thing. Maybe we should aim to establish this first MFF World Cup tournament as a 5-aside? I'm sure we would have many more entrants that way, and besides maybe we can build on it with a view to play an 11-aside tournament in the future. Are there any objections to the 2008 MFF World Cup tournament to;

-Be a 5aside tournament
-For entering teams to be charged a small entry fee
-For the tournament to either be set in July or August of 2008

[geoffblade]

That sounds good to me!

I also think it might be an idea to perhaps try and contact some bigger/better known micronations once we have made some agreements and properly set up the MFF, what do you think?

[craitman]

definately 5-a-side.
if Cräiteland can even gather that many players up

[Lewis]

Hamland can use the big horn of loudness. It assembles a great horde with torches and spears outside my door every time. I think they must love me as they keep shouting at me.

Anyway, The thing is about the paperwork rule:

If you can't do the work, then you obviously don't want itn THAT badly.

I agree. 5-a-side. I'll start the "where you are": Angus, Scotland. I think that we should organise a vote for the micronation that should hold it. So it could be hed in Kirrie (my home town) rather on our territory (which is too small). Same for any other goers.

Finally before I depart to today's event: I think that teams should be responsible for booking a place to stay in the local area rather than the actual MFF. That way money is conserved for a trophy and medals and all that gubbins.

[King James I]

Ok, well I'm in Lincolnshire.

I think that teams should be responsible for booking a place to stay in the local area rather than the actual MFF

Yeah I think we'd have to, it'd cost a hell of alot of money for the MFF to pay for all the accomodation.

In regards to where we are looking to hold it, maybe we should find out where everyone is first then work out somewhere as close to the middle as possible to minimise travelling.

For the venue I think the cheapest option would be to look at booking a private field for the day. We could advertise the event in the local area, hopefully we'd get a few spectators and you never know - some of them may take an interest in micronationalism! Also allowing members of the public in to watch us may help us in a form of fundraising - if we could get a few people to go around with buckets for loose change.

A little off the original topic but anyway - Goal size? I think it would be best to take portable goals, I have a 12 ft by 6 ft goal that I'd be willing to take, and if everyone was Ok with that size we could just hire one more.